Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
John C Klensin <john+ietf@jck.com> Fri, 05 December 2008 19:36 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john+ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
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--On Thursday, 04 December, 2008 16:17 -0500 Ray Pelletier <rpelletier@isoc.org> wrote: > All, > this conversation has been limited to those on the Minneapolis > attendees list. > It might generate other interest on the ietf list. Or it might generate even more noise. I have a prediction... :-( But I would strongly encourage you, or any IAOC and/or IESG member, to prepare a summary of the high points of this discussion, possibly with some initial reactions, and then use that summary, ideally in I-D form, to initiate a real discussion on the IETF list. We have often found that those are the types of discussions that actually work in the IETF, unlike these things that wander back and forth among the same themes with a comparatively small number of people... and that do their wandering a lot faster --and further into the weeds -- with a larger one. If you, the IAOC, or the IESG were willing to try to prepare such a summary, it would also indicate to the community that you understood the issues and were taking them seriously which would, itself, be a helpful step forward. I believe that the discussion on this list and the issues raised have been wide-ranging enough that you should take it as a mandate to do some preliminary consideration and then respond to the broader list with either a summary, a preliminary proposal, or both, not just a suggestion to go repeat the discussion on a larger list. john _______________________________________________ 73attendees mailing list 73attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees
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