Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?
"Ross Callon" <rcallon@juniper.net> Tue, 18 November 2008 15:39 UTC
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I agree that this has been a significant issue, and that it is not appropriate to have a large number of meetings in a location where a significant number of potential attendees cannot get a visa to attend. For this reason I have been an advocate of having a disproportionate number of the North American meetings in Canada rather than the USA (to me the Vancouver and Montreal locations have been just as convenient as nearby US locations, and I assume that there must also be suitable facilities in Toronto and elsewhere). One thing that I wonder about is whether or not this will get better with the change of administrations in January. Thus I would be interested in hearing at the next two US IETFs (San Francisco in March 2009, and Anaheim in March 2010) whether people have had an easier time than they did at the current or past IETFs. Ross -----Original Message----- From: 73attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:73attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ??? Sent: 18 November 2008 10:15 To: healthyao@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Cc: 73attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria? yes, it's really a problem that IETF meeting organizers should seriously consider. 在您的来信中曾经提到: >From: "YAO" <healthyao@gmail.com> >Reply-To: >To: <ietf@ietf.org> >Subject: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria? >Date:Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:24:41 +0800 > > > > according to IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04#section-2.3 > > which said " > > 2.3. Freedom of Participation > > Meetings should not be held in countries where some attendees could > be disallowed entry or where freedom of speech is not guaranteed for > all participants. > " > > My question is :" > > Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria as IETF Meeting Venue ?" > > It seems that many IETFer are disallowed to enter USA for ietf meeting when ietf is held in USA this time or other times > _______________________________________________ > 73attendees mailing list > 73attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees > _______________________________________________ 73attendees mailing list 73attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 ofdraf… 张国强
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ross Callon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… qdang
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Eric Gray
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… George Michaelson
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Mike McBride (mmcbride)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randall Gellens
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified or not ? Max Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Scott Brim
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Melinda Shore
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… David Quigley
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Yi Zhao
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Yi Zhao
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… David Kessens
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified or not ? Massimiliano Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Gene Gaines
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Matthew Ford
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USAqualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-pa… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Max Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USAqualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-pa… YAO Jiankang
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Fernando Gont
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… James Seng
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Tom.Petch
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… YAO Jiankang
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Jari Arkko
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Phillip Hallam-baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Raj Yaralagadda