Re: [74attendees] ipv6 t-shirt design

"Geoffrey Creighton (LCA)" <Geoffrey.Creighton@microsoft.com> Thu, 09 April 2009 02:20 UTC

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From: "Geoffrey Creighton (LCA)" <Geoffrey.Creighton@microsoft.com>
To: Gregory Lebovitz <gregory.ietf@gmail.com>, Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, "74attendees@ietf.org" <74attendees@ietf.org>
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By flooding the market with authentic reproductions you undermine my plan to preserve this rare shirt in an oxygen-free environment, bequeath it to my still-nonexistent grandchildren, and finance my great-grandchildren's college education when they auction it off at Christie's in 2069 ....

But for the good of the community, I'm prepared to make that sacrifice. More shirts!


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Subject: Re: [74attendees] ipv6 t-shirt design

Folks,
First, thanks for all the great comments about the shirt. We (the Juniper host team) are very glad to have succeeded in providing something both fun and meaningful. One is never sure how something like this will come off, so it's encouraging to see the positive feedback. Thanks again.

As the designer and project lead (not artist, that was a paid professional who would love to be contacted for other projects), I have discussed the topic with Ray Pelletier of ISOC, and they would very much like to sell the shirts. Therefore, Juniper has granted royalty free license (sounds like an IPR statement, yuk) to ISOC to use the artwork to reproduce and sell more shirts. And they are committed to doing so.

Getting all the logistics set up will take just a bit of time, and I'm sure Ray will let everyone know when it is up and ready. The feedback about the price limits is very helpful to the process.

Start saving your pennies so you can buy more shirts ;-) And keep your eyes out on this and the IETF Announce list for more details in the next month or so.

Gregory Lebovitz
Juniper Networks
serving on IAB

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com<mailto:dean.willis@softarmor.com>> wrote:

On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:

On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
Isn't it sufficient to recognize the design as exclusive and available
in limited quantity?

I don't think anybody's complaining here - we're just expressing our admiration for the work that was done, and our wish to get more of it.   I'd be surprised if the people who did the shirt have time to do more, but I don't see the harm in asking.


If it is a typical T-shirt operation, some shop somewhere has the artwork and, for a commitment of 50 shirts or so, will run a production batch.

So the production probably isn't the problem. Getting somebody to organize the operation (and stand the financial commitment) is probably the problem.

--
Dean


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