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Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima"

"Gregory M. Lebovitz" <gregory.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 05 November 2009 18:15 UTC

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At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote:
>I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about
>Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than
>it is in English.  In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi
>roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma".

Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]?

>Also, that "R" is a "flap r", much like the single "r" in Spanish.  It
>sounds a lot like "t" to this American ear.  (It is actually the same as
>the "t" in "butter" in Standard American English pronunciation.)

Very helpful. Much appreciated,
Gregory.


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