Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare

Akira Kato <> Sun, 11 October 2009 10:02 UTC

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Dear Zartash,

The information described in never assume
that you are with a Japan Rail Pass holder. You need to buy a regular
ticket to Hiroshima and the price is based on a Nozomi train.

If you are going to use a Japan Rail Pass, you can board Haruka
express train down to Shin-Osaka with the pass, but you need to take a
Hikari train which departs twice an hour from Shin-Osaka to Hiroshima.

-- Akira Kato

From: Zartash Uzmi <>
Subject: Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:44:17 +0600

> Hi Akira Kato,
> I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not being able
> to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the Nozomi
> train. From the meeting website (, under the
> heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several others)
> will be traveling, the following information is given:
> "From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express train to Shin
> Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the Shinkansen
> either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima Station (1hr. 45 min. 3-4
> times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima (one way, reserved
> seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR Ticket Office in
> Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are non-reserved seats
> available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is recommended to
> reserve your seat."
> This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be able to
> provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket different
> form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyways if it
> restricts the travel?
> Thanks,
> Zartash
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato <> wrote:
>     With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else
>     posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a
>     Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The
>     travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min
>     longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train
>     directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains
>     depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in
>     regular hours.
>     The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not
>     Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train
>     (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass.
>     So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only
>     - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible
>      for example)
>     or
>     - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting.
>     See for detail.
>     -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project
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