Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima"

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Fri, 06 November 2009 12:22 UTC

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Dale Worley allegedly wrote on 11/06/2009 3:42 AM:
> Good point:  Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature is
> somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e".  What I noticed
> more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think
> that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit.  

Since we're geeking out about this, as non-Japanese who likes languages
... "hiro" and "shima" are etymologically two separate words.  If
"shima" appeared on its own the "shi" would be stressed.  However, there
is a tendency in Japanese to almost elide the "i" when "shi" appears
after the beginning of a word, and through use that tendency has come to
dominate the original meaning.

Dae Young KIM allegedly wrote on 11/06/2009 4:59 AM:
> BTW, about ASCII.. did you know that the Korean characters, Hanguel, is
> one of the simplest and most effective phonetic script? A topic for a
> possibly future IETF in Corea. Now, it's about Japan and Hiroshima.

Agreed.  As a non-native (again) I find Korean writing to be admirably
efficient.

swb