Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare

Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> Sun, 11 October 2009 10:03 UTC

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From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
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The JR Rail Pass is a discount pass for foreign visitors, similar to 
Eurail (http://www.eurail.com/) which allows unlimited travel for
a certain period within Japan.

So, you can buy JR tickets at th JR office at Kansai or Narita or
at basically any JR station in Japan, but you can NOT buy the 
unlimited travel ticket for visitors once you are in Japan.

See: http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en003.html

A JR Railpass does not "restrict travel" in fact it gives you 
virtually unlimited travel within a given time period, however,
it is, as Kato san says, not valid on ONE kind of Shinkansen
train. You could certainly travel from Kansai to Hiroshima and
back on a JR Railpss, but you would not be able to do so on the
absolute fastest express train.

Ole

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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Zartash Uzmi wrote:

> Hi Akira Kato,
> 
> I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not being
> able to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the
> Nozomi train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under
> the heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several
> others) will be traveling, the following information is given:
> 
> "From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express
> train<http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/access/train/index.html>to
> Shin Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the
> Shinkansen either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima
> Station<http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#JR-Hiroshima>(1hr. 45 min. 3-4
> times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima
> (one way, reserved seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR
> Ticket Office in Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are
> non-reserved seats available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is
> recommended to reserve your seat."
> 
> This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be able to
> provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket different
> form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyways if
> it restricts the travel?
> 
> Thanks,
> Zartash
> 
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato <kato@wide.ad.jp> wrote:
> 
> >
> > With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else
> > posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a
> > Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The
> > travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min
> > longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train
> > directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains
> > depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in
> > regular hours.
> >
> > The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not
> > Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train
> > (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass.
> >
> > So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only
> > - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible
> >  for example)
> > or
> > - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting.
> >
> > See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail.
> >
> > -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project
> >
> >
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