Re: [76attendees] Question About the Train Fare

Zartash Uzmi <zartash@stanfordalumni.org> Sat, 10 October 2009 22:42 UTC

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Hi Akira Kato,

I have a slight confusion regarding this discussion, especially not being
able to buy the JR Rail Pass within Japan and not being able to board the
Nozomi train. From the meeting website (http://www.ietf76.jp/access/), under
the heading "From Kansai Airport" through which I (and presumably several
others) will be traveling, the following information is given:

"From Kansai International Airport, take the JR "Haruka" Express
train<http://www.kansai-airport.or.jp/en/access/train/index.html>to
Shin Osaka Station (45 min., every 30 min.) where you can board the
Shinkansen either "Nozomi" or "Hikari" train to JR Hiroshima
Station<http://www.ietf76.jp/access/#JR-Hiroshima>(1hr. 45 min. 3-4
times in an hour). The fare is 11,730 JPY down to Hirohima
(one way, reserved seat). Please buy your ticket through Hiroshima at the JR
Ticket Office in Kansai Airport to enjoy a discount. While there are
non-reserved seats available on both the "Haruka" and the Shinakansen, it is
recommended to reserve your seat."

This information tells me that JR ticket office at Kansai will be able to
provide tickets using which Nozomi can be boarded. Is that ticket different
form the JR Rail Pass? If yes, why would one need a JR Rail Pass anyways if
it restricts the travel?

Thanks,
Zartash

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Akira Kato <kato@wide.ad.jp> wrote:

>
> With JR Rail Pass, you can't board Nozomi trains as somebody else
> posted already -- there is no program such as "pay XXX JPY to board a
> Nozomi train", unfortunately. So you need to use Hikari trains. The
> travel time between Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima is about 50min
> longer and you need to change in Shin-Osaka (there is no Hikari train
> directly connecting Tokyo/Shinagawa and Hiroshima). Hikari trains
> depart twice an hour while Nozomi trains depart three times an hour in
> regular hours.
>
> The last Nozomi train to Hiroshma departs from Tokyo station (Not
> Narita Airport) at 19:50 while you need to take 18:33 Hikari train
> (need to change at Shin-Osaka) if you use JR Rail Pass.
>
> So I recommend to consider to purchase a JR Rail Pass only
> - if your itinerary is flexible (one night stay in Tokyo is possible
>  for example)
> or
> - if you are traveling Japan before or after IETF meeting.
>
> See http://www.japanrailpass.net/ for detail.
>
> -- Akira Kato, WIDE Project
>
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