Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

[Marshall Eubanks <[e-mail]>]

On Mar 30, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Stephan Wenger wrote:

> Hi Marshall,
>
> On 3.30.2010 16:16 , "Marshall Eubanks" <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> [...]
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>> They are subject to the Note Well. That is certainly a rule.
>>
>
> Are they?  Should they?  I'm not sure.
>
> I think that there is a value in unofficial meetings that are not  
> under Note
> Well, along the IETF.  I think that this was the bar BOF's original  
> mission.
>
> Arguably, I have been attending one "bar BOF" during IETF77.  It was
> fulfilling most of Lars' criteria for a bar BOF: invitation only,  
> not openly
> announced, in a restaurant/bar, freely discussing stuff (including the
> appropriateness of the IETF as a venue for studying that stuff), high
> density of discussions, no ADs invited and none present.  However,  
> it was
> something different than a dinner between companies in the same  
> technology
> field.  It certainly was not under Note Well.

And, for what it's worth, I would agree with you in a case such as this.

Regards
Marshall


>
> I would not even know how to desribe my contributions to this  
> meeting, if it
> were under Note Well and assuming I were forced to make an IPR  
> disclosure
> under BCP 79.
>
> Stephan
>
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