Re: [78attendees] Lessons we can take from the Internet connectivity fiasco in Maastricht...

<hannu.hietalahti@nokia.com> Thu, 29 July 2010 09:01 UTC

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>> Maybe I am missing something?
>
>The US carriers tend towards very high data roaming charges. 
>You can easily rack up charges in the multiple hundreds of euros range.
>
OK, the EU regulation might work to my favour here as it puts a cap on roaming charges. But compared to pre-VoIP times I have decimated my company phone bills from hundreds of euros to tens of euros each month just by using VoIP for calls where free WLAN is easily available. (please don't quote me on that in 3GPP meeting ;-)

Outside of meeting venue and my hotel I just use cellular connectivity whenever I need it.

This usage pattern means that for me 10 € / day for hotel WLAN is expensive compared to my phone usage.

BR,
Hannu Hietalahti
3GPP TSG CT Chairman
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