Re: [81attendees] Flying via the US

"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Tue, 12 July 2011 18:20 UTC

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> I expect that is because once you are at the point where you recheck your 
> baggage you can just walk out into the unsecured areas of the terminal (and 
> the US).
>
> I haven't seen any US airport setups that operate in any other manner (but 
> then I am not a "transit passenger" when I am in the US).

Gee, if I say ten more times that by policy there is no international 
transit in US airports, will anyone believe me?

Here's a press release from 2003 saying no more visa-less transit:

http://paraguay.usembassy.gov/transit_program_suspension.html

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John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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