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At 1:30 PM -0500 8/8/11, James M. Polk wrote:

>  In the end, Van is a major international airport, and QC was at 
> minimum a secondary city. That part should have been front and 
> center when given the choice in the first place.
>
>  But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...

A number of people agree, and made this point at the time (if I 
recall correctly).

-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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