Re: MIME implementation documentation
Ned Freed <Ned.Freed@innosoft.com> Wed, 21 August 1996 05:50 UTC
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From: Ned Freed <Ned.Freed@innosoft.com>
To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no, ietf-822@list.cren.net, moore@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: MIME implementation documentation
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> I believe Pine and IMAP4 servers (I know of at least 4 independant > implementations) are examples of handling nested multiparts on the client > side. Pine numbers the parts in such a way that the nested structure is > clearly visible to the user. IMAP4 parses the MIME message into a > hierarchical structure which preserves the nested represntation. PMDF MAIL does this as well. So do the various DEC MailWorks clients, and while they don't support MIME directly they support it just fine indirectly through our MIME-->Message Router gateway. Message Router is one of the few non-MIME environments around that actually handles nested structures reasonably and completely, even when you nest them very deeply. (Please don't try to tell me that X.400 agents generally support this too, as I have way to many experiences with X.400 MTAs that fall over dead when presented with nested messages to believe it.) There's also ALL-IN-1, which again doesn't support MIME directly but does support it indirectly through both our gateway as well as those of several other vendors. And ALL-IN-1 has to be the heaviest user of part nesting anywhere -- it routinely generates three levels just for what it regards as a simple attachment, and this quickly multiplies when you reply or worse, forward and add a cover note. I've seen casual ALL-IN-1 users produce MIME structures 20 or more levels deep with no effort at all, and heaven help the non-ALL-IN-1 user who has to deal with such messes. (Support is one thing, presenting suc complex objects so that casual users can deal with them is quite another. I've also seen these structure blow some agents out of the water, but plenty of others handle such things very nicely.) Ned
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