Re: RE[2]: mailto URLs

Jamie Zawinski <jwz@netscape.com> Tue, 30 January 1996 12:10 UTC

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From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@netscape.com>
To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
Cc: Larry Masinter <masinter@parc.xerox.com>, pkeni@netscape.com, mb@ebt.com, izzy@aac.twg.com, timbl@www0.cern.ch, mpm@boombox.micro.umn.edu, ietf-822@list.cren.net, bhk@aac.twg.com, Al Gilman <asg@severn.wash.inmet.com>
Subject: Re: RE[2]: mailto URLs
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Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no wrote:
> 
> Note also that if you revise Mailto:, the ADs will want to have answered
> the questions that were raised on Mailserver:, including:
> 
> - How to ensure a proper From: address
>   (this is about THE most common question from mail admins these days;
>   the keyword is Netscape 2.0)

I think the keyword you're thinking of is Netscape 1.1; in 2.0, we
complain if the user's return address doesn't contain an "@" followed
by at least one ".".  Which I think is the best we can do and have it
still work on systems that do address resolution in funny ways (for
example, on YP/NIS systems, or heavily firewalled systems, where you
don't have access to MX records at all.)

> - How to (request to) apply signature functions to the message
> - How to make sure the user is aware of what he is doing
>   (or is getting done in his name)

In the case of mailto: URLs opened with GET, this is no problem, since
all this does is bring up a message composition window, with certain
fields initialized; the user then has the ability to edit and review
what's going to happen, and any pre-delivery processing that would
normally occur would occur in this case as well.

In the case of mailto: URLs opened with POST (which sends the message
directly), perhaps there should be some confirmation before sending the
mail; I think there is only one difference between this type of POST and
POSTs to all other URLs, and that is the inclusion of the "From:"
header.

> See http://domen.uninett.no/~hta/ietf/http-traps.html for some
> examples of how to get mail sent from unsuspecting clients.

I'm happy to report that none of these seemed to work on Netscape 2.0
(running on Linux 1.2.13, at least.)  I don't particularly understand
why the SMTP tricks didn't work, however; I assume it's because our
HTTP headers are confusing the mail server...

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Jamie Zawinski    jwz@netscape.com   http://www.netscape.com/people/jwz/