Re: MIME implementation documentation
Bart Schaefer <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com> Sun, 18 August 1996 05:03 UTC
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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com>
To: Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no, ietf-822@list.cren.net
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Subject: Re: MIME implementation documentation
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"Re: MIME implementation documentation" (Aug 17, 9:36am)
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On Aug 17, 9:36am, Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no wrote: } Subject: Re: MIME implementation documentation } } Are Nested Body Parts widely implemented? Do the various multipart/security extensions count as nested body parts for this purpose? } The question is if there exist MUAs that: } 1. Generate nested multiparts through a reasonable user interface } 2. Usefully display nested multiparts } } The following MUAs have reasonable support for generating nested } multiparts: } * Ishmail. The "Add Container" menu item. } The following MUAs have reasonable support for displaying nested } multiparts: } * EXMH 1.6.7 Metamail. Or does it not count? Ishmail, I'm fairly sure. Is anybody from HaL on this list? Z-Mail does provide for display of nested body parts, but it does so by invoking metamail for the second nesting level and beyond. I'd be willing to bet that there are IMAP4 clients very near release that support this; certainly any IMAP4 server has the ability to parse a nested MIME structure and present it to clients. } Are External Body Parts widely implemented? } } The question is if there exist MUAs that: } 1. Generate External Body Parts through a reasonable user interface } 2. Usefully handle External Body Parts Are special cases included? MediaMail (Z-Mail as bundled with IRIX 5/6) and the forthcoming Z-Mail 4.0 for Unix both generate a special "removed by recipient" external body part to preserve the MIME body structure when a user requests that an individual body part be deleted from a message. However, such messages would never be sent to another UA unless forwarded. Also, the "reassembler" agent included with MediaMail, whose primary purpose is to automatically collect message/partial sections and rebuild the single original message, will strip out attachments larger than a specified threshold and replace them with a message/external-body with access-type=local-file. This all happens without any user interface at all (except one button click to install the reassembler, and a file to edit if you want to change the stripping threshold). MediaMail and Z-Mail both "usefully handle" these cases for display, and can be programmed to handle other external types (the default setup is to invoke metamail for most access-types). } The following MUAs have reasonable support for generating External } Body Parts: } * Is the "reassembler" agent an MUA? } The following MUAs have reasonable support for handling External Body } Parts: } * MH 6.8.3 Metamail. Z-Mail with the caveats noted above. -- Bart Schaefer Brass Lantern Enterprises http://www.well.com/user/barts http://www.nbn.com/people/lantern New male in /home/schaefer: >N 2 Justin William Schaefer Sat May 11 03:43 53/4040 "Happy Birthday"
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