Re: MIME implementation documentation
Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Fri, 16 August 1996 15:30 UTC
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From: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
To: Ned Freed <Ned.Freed@innosoft.com>
Cc: John C Klensin <klensin@mail1.reston.mci.net>,
Ned Freed <Ned.Freed@innosoft.com>, ietf-822@list.cren.net,
Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
Subject: Re: MIME implementation documentation
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At 3:00 AM -0700 8/16/96, Ned Freed wrote: >entirely misplaced. MIME exceeded its design goals and became a general data >structuring format before the first set of MIME RFCs were even out. There are indeed it did and I agree that MUAs aren't the only place to look for satisfaction of the implementation/use. But the use needs to be real. The fact that RFC and I-D announcements use /alternative is a good start, for believing the contruct is a good one. But what receiving software is there that uses this contruct meaningfully? Is it used elsewhere? (For reference, I really DO want the answer to be yes. I think is is a marvelous construct.) >Perhaps we aren't, but it seems to me that you are reading an awful >lot into the proposed-->draft step of the process. this step doesn't require implementation into production systems; demonstration is fine. on the other hand, MIME ain't new and a lack of implementation in production systems by now is not a good sign. no? d/ -------------------- Dave Crocker +1 408 246 8253 Brandenburg Consulting fax: +1 408 249 6205 675 Spruce Dr. dcrocker@brandenburg.com Sunnyvale CA 94086 USA http://www.brandenburg.com Internet Mail Consortium http://www.imc.org, info@imc.org
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- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Bart Schaefer
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Chris Newman
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation John C Klensin
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation John C Klensin
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Pete Resnick
- Re: MIME implementation documentation John C Klensin
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation John C Klensin
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Rens Troost
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Pete Resnick
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Pete Resnick
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Jamie Zawinski
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Pete Resnick
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation ruth moulton
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- Re: MIME implementation documentation Larry Masinter
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Dave Crocker
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation Ned Freed
- Re: MIME implementation documentation ruth moulton
- Re: MIME implementation documentation John C Klensin
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