Re: [84attendees] YVR Checking Counter Opening Hours (for US)
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To: "Scheffenegger, Richard" <rs@netapp.com>, Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Richard, Sorry to learn about your unfortunate incident with customs. The Venezuelan used Toronto as their gateway instead of the US. Although they had to wait for hours at the airport. Now I know one of their reasons. Regards, Fred -----Mensaje original----- De: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Scheffenegger, Richard Enviado el: miércoles, 08 de agosto de 2012 11:00 p.m. Para: Ole Jacobsen; Ted Lemon CC: Tim Chown; 84attendees@ietf.org Asunto: Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hours (for US) Well, as non-US / non-Canadian citizen, in my case the shorter queue with much longer sojourn times and strict queuing caused me to miss my 06:00 flight, even though I was about 100 min before gate closing at the airport... Apparently there was holiday season not only for Europeans but Asians too. The split of 3-4 customs inspectors for the foreigners vs. 8-10 for US/Canadians (who are more likely to know the procedure and language) didn't exactly help... Teaching queuing theory in primary school might ultimately help fixing these issues at airports, supermarkets, bus stops, ... Next time, I'll be using Toronto again to enter the states, they have different queuing there (queuing by priority [time to departure] rather than nationality...). Richard Scheffenegger > -----Original Message----- > From: 84attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:84attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Samstag, 04. August 2012 11:58 > To: Ted Lemon > Cc: Tim Chown; 84attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hours (for US) > > > The place was really packed around 4:30 this morning. Huge lines, not > very effective processes and so on. I think we (IETF folks) all made > our flights at 6am, but not with much time to spare, and this is > speaking as someone who could go through various priority lanes, use > Global Entry and so on. > > Lesson: The 6am flights are probably not the best choice, have never > seen the aiport that busy, but I've also never left this early zzzzz. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > On Sat, 4 Aug 2012, Ted Lemon wrote: > > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > > > There must be something wrong with Canada somewhere, surely ;) > > > > Massive bufferbloat on the YVR free WiFi network? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 84attendees mailing list > 84attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees _______________________________________________ 84attendees mailing list 84attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/84attendees
- [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hours (… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Bob Hinden
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Scott Brim
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Mary Barnes
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Jon Hudson
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Scott Brim
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ralph Droms
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Tim Chown
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Jon Hudson
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Dan McGinn
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Steven Bellovin
- [84attendees] Amtrak ... david.black
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ted Lemon
- Re: [84attendees] Amtrak ... Steven Bellovin
- Re: [84attendees] Amtrak ... Randy Bush
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Stephen Kent
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ralf Weber
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR)
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Phil Hunt
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Thomas Herbst
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Jon Hudson
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR)
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ralph Droms
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Bob Hinden
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR)
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Tim Chown
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randell Jesup
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … Ben Campbell
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] not really YVR Checkin Counter … Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John C Klensin
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs david.black
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR)
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Wes Hardaker
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Scott Brim
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Steven Bellovin
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Ben Campbell
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Steven Bellovin
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Bob Hinden
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ralph Droms
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John C Klensin
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Warren Kumari
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Lou Berger
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Pat Thaler
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Thomas Herbst
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randy Bush
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John C Klensin
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Steven Bellovin
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Lou Berger
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ben Campbell
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checking Counter Opening Ho… Fred Clark
- Re: [84attendees] US immigration vs. customs Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Lou Berger
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ralph Droms
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… John C Klensin
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] YVR Checkin Counter Opening Hou… Ben Campbell
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… John R Levine
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… John R Levine
- [84attendees] Wednesday SDNRG presentation docume… wdwang
- Re: [84attendees] Wednesday SDNRG presentation do… Eggert, Lars
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Bede McCall
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Warren Kumari
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Eric Burger
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Drew Dvorshak
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Randall Gellens
- Re: [84attendees] passport cards and such, was YV… Eric Burger