Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 Berlin Meeting Review

"Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net> Sat, 17 August 2013 08:42 UTC

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16 aug 2013 kl. 18:19 skrev Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>om>:

> On 8/16/2013 9:31 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 07:28 -0700, Keith Moore wrote:
>>> On 08/15/2013 10:05 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>>> We've asked about this before, but it hasn't got traction.   It would probably turn into the new thing to complain about, so I'm not really surprised nobody's jumped on it.
>>> Since people are going to complain anyway, and offer solutions to
>>> problems that they don't understand, maybe we should nominate two or
>>> three "things to complain about" in advance of each IETF meeting.
>>> 
>>> For Vancouver in November, I think we should complain about the lack of
>>> air conditioning.
>> That's sort of like complaining about Atlanta's lack of snow removal
>> equipment in the summer (or the winter)...
> 
> Yeah, but the problem with waiting until we arrive onsite to decide what to complain about is that we're not really prepared, and railing on multiple topics lowers the quality of the complaints about all of the topics we're complaining about.
> 
> If we all decide now to complain about the same thing in Vancouver in November, we'll have *months* for people to compose rants.
> 
> Probably even as haikus. And then the IETF can sell the collection as poetry, and use the proceeds for the benefit of London participants (whether local or remote).

T-shirts and stickers too. Don't forget the merchandise oppurtunity if we can agree in time.

/O