Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 Berlin Meeting Review

Jakob Heitz <> Thu, 15 August 2013 15:27 UTC

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Well, I hate that policy.
I've never been "walked", but I would hate to be.

Jakob Heitz.

On Aug 15, 2013, at 8:22 AM, "Mary Barnes" <<>> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Jakob Heitz <<>> wrote:
Don't book more people than rooms.
[MB] The hotels book based on anticipated a specific number/percentage of no shows - that's standard business practice and is not unlike what the airlines do. Andrew Sullivan provided all the detail as to how it works based on his own firsthand experiences.   I do wonder if the numbers vary for conferences as to the average public.  I would think the IETF no show rate, for example, might be lower than the average no show rate.   My guess also is that they had more people from the other conference extend their stays.  As someone else noted, they aren't going to kick someone out of a room - that's guaranteed revenue. There's always a chance there will be no shows - flight delays, illness, etc.    [/MB]

If a booked person doesn't show, let the hotel charge that person a cancellation fee to cover revenue lost due to empty rooms.
[MB] They already do that - you can find any reservation has a cancel by date/time. If you don't cancel by then, they will charge you the first nights rate. [/MB]

Jakob Heitz.

On Aug 15, 2013, at 6:28 AM, "John R Levine" <<>> wrote:

>> Don't bump anyone.  Apply a cancelation fee.
> Not an option.  If the hotel has more people than rooms, they have to bump someone, and there's no way to force a person who's checked into a room out of it.
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