Re: [88attendees] permanently out of scope

Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 03 November 2013 02:32 UTC

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From: Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:32:20 -0400
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Cc: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, Tony Hansen <tony@att.com>, "88attendees@ietf.org" <88attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [88attendees] permanently out of scope
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> On Nov 2, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
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>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> wrote:
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>>> On 11/2/2013 6:56 PM, Leif Johansson wrote:
>>>> On 11/02/2013 11:22 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
>>>>> Good initiative Ted :-) Lets expand the list of exhausted topics for the
>>>>> good of the community:
>>>> I really think it's best to keep a tight focus.   I agree that cookies are in scope, because they are always in scope.   But Japanese toilets are something we can deal with when we get to Yokohama.   The state of the art will probably have changed by then anyway.
>>> I doubt it. They didn't replace the elevators in Vancouver did they? No
>>> reason to expect a change in lavatory technology for Yokohama. I'm just
>>> thinking ahead :-)
>> 
>> Don't be too sure about that. The new ones are hackable:
>> 
>> http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?f_src=ieweekend&doc_id=269254&image_number=2
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> The restrooms in the Google Mountain View campus have Toto Washlet search (similar to http://www.totousa.com/Washlet/S400.aspx ).
> The control pad (which mounts on the stall wall) communicates to the toilet seat over IR.
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> For April fools day one year I brought in a learning universal remote -- by bouncing the signal off the ceiling you can control the seat from 5 stalls away…

I *knew* we were going to have trouble with security in the Internet of Things...

- Ralph

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