Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88
Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 08 November 2013 07:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88
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On 11/7/2013 8:24 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Asmic Computers ZA/NG <asmicom@ngportal.com> wrote: >> I would be interested in talking to you all on how we can improve on our representation and contributions to the IETF. It would also be good to discuss how we can help develop the continent via this network. > An important consideration in this is that while your presence in meetings is valuable, your presence on mailing lists is also valuable and comparatively inexpensive. As a first step, you might consider looking through the set of drafts labeled draft-ietf-*.txt, which is to say "working group drafts". Their working group will generally be the third word, like draft-ietf-ospf or draft-ietf-v6ops. Access them online, and, if they interest you, comment on them. The most interesting comments will be those that improve them in some way - identify issues and suggest text. That will get african viewpoints into discussions regarding current work product. > > BTW, the same goes for south americans and anyone else that feels under-represented. Get involved on mailing lists. > > Daily news can be found at https://www.ietf.org, and specifically http://tools.ietf.org/dailydose/. It takes a minute to look at it, and from time to time you may find something of interest to comment on. You can also go to http://tools.ietf.org/html/. > > If you need guidance regarding a given working group, the obvious people to get it from are the chairs, which you can reach by emailing the -chairs@tools.ietf.org list for the working group. For example, if you want to reach the v6ops chairs, email v6ops-chairs@tools.ietf.org. For a list of the working groups and access to their charters and their mailing list membership processes, go to http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/. > > The next step might include writing your own drafts and submitting them for discussion. But you don't need to rush into that; get a sense of what's going on and then contribute to it. I agree with Fred's suggestions, and wanted to mention a couple of other things ... If during your checking around you find problems with protocols we're working on that don't work in your particular country or environment, please tell us. I'm remembering (possibly dreaming, it's been a long week) that GeoPriv was rolling along when someone somewhere in Asia pointed out that in their country, and perhaps only in their country, some civic addresses included *alleys*, and asked how these addresses should be encoded. If we hadn't heard from participants from that country, we wouldn't have known until someone tried to deploy products in that country (inconveniently late for a standards discussion). The TSV area has been looking at a tunneling/compression/multiplexing proposal (details at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/tcmtf.html, and this is likely to pop back up at IETF 89 in London, if the BOF requestors ask for that). It turns out that we got some support from African participants who find it fits their connectivity to the rest of the Internet. You might also check out the discussions to date on the diversity mailing list, where people are doing things like asking what it would take to set up regional meetings for folks who can't travel to an IETF meeting, so that more people can engage and contribute. See http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/maillist.html for the archive. If you're thinking about how to help people back home who weren't able to attend, you might also make use of training materials from the Sunday tutorials (for instance, the IETF 87 Newcomer's Training is at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/slides/slides-87-edu-newcomers-4.pdf - I just reported that the IETF 88 version returned a 404/not found). These aren't all process tutorials, either - for instance, if people care about realtime applications and infrastructure, http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-edu-introtorai-0.pdf would be helpful. I hope this helps you and your colleagues contribute effectively to the IETF. Spencer, in this case, writing as an AD
- [88attendees] wanted: garmin forerunner clip-styl… Erik Wilde
- Re: [88attendees] wanted: garmin forerunner clip-… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [88attendees] wanted: garmin forerunner clip-… Asmic Computers ZA/NG
- [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Asmic Computers ZA/NG
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Adama dembélé
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Paul M
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Ed Pascoe
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Asmic Computers ZA/NG
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Adama dembélé
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Asmic Computers ZA/NG
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Michael Adeyeye, Ph.D
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Howard, Lee
- Re: [88attendees] AFRICANs @ the IETF 88 Eggert, Lars