Re: [88attendees] Anti-harassment policy and ombudsperson

For those not familiar with the Pycon event here is one take on it

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/how-dongle-jokes-got-two-people-fired-and-led-to-ddos-attacks/

This really is a great example of things getting way out of hand way too
fast.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:
> > It seems fairly obvious that this is in response to concerns in the the
> tech-conferencing community as a whole, not the IETF specifically.
>  There’ve been issues at gatherings of other communities that have spiraled
> into the danger zone very quickly and seriously damaged careers and lives.
> Trying to get in front of this proactively seems smart to me.
>
> Exactly.   Google pycon harassment for an example.   It is a very safe
> assumption that in any organization the size of the IETF, some incidents
> have occurred, and some will occur in the future.   I would like to think
> the IETF is special, and that such things never happen, but I do not think
> it is responsible to make such an assumption, no matter how tempting it is.
>
> If you look at the pycon incident, it's clear that both the "accused" and
> the "accuser" suffered way out of proportion to what was called for by the
> actual incident.   The whole fiasco would have come out hugely better for
> all involved if a clear policy had been in effect at that conference.
>
> I would not like to see something like that happen at IETF.
>
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