Re: [88attendees] thank you - Vancouver first
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 10 November 2013 19:54 UTC
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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 14:54:09 -0500
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [88attendees] thank you - Vancouver first
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--On Sunday, 10 November, 2013 13:53 -0500 Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > I was in one working group meeting this week where the > chairs could NOT > recruit a jabber scribe, after asking > to the point of obnoxiousness, so > anything that makes us > more aware of, and responsive to, remote participants > is > accomplishing something, and we may have a little more work to > do ... > > It also made it really easy for the person to clearly "take > the hat off", as they went to the mic/etc. to offer their own > opinion. That, of course, was the primary idea -- to make it easy for the chair or other person in the front of the room to identify someone speaking as Jabber scribe and either asking for clarification of something or providing input from remote participants. If the problem is actually a scribe recruitment issue, we may need to figure out how much we care about remote participants and, if we do, be prepared to reward such people in more tangible ways than temporary use of a hat. I did think of putting "IETF 88" on a third line on the hats and bringing out enough for each WG, Sunday tutorial, and plenary session, but the idea exceeded my luggage allowance and the amount I was willing to invest in the experiment. john
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- Re: [88attendees] thank you - Vancouver first Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [88attendees] thank you - Vancouver first Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [88attendees] thank you - Vancouver first Michael Richardson