Re: [89attendees] whining

Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net> Tue, 04 March 2014 00:35 UTC

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From: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
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Subject: Re: [89attendees] whining
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I think it should be a standing rule that we all buy drinks for the
secretariat anytime we see them at the bar. Its the least we can do to
compensate for our high-maintenance whining behaviors. :)
Cheers,
-Benson

On Mar 3, 2014 9:39 PM, "Ted Lemon" <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
> In general when we whine, it's because we imagine that there is some
thing that can still be changed, not because we are mad at the secretariat.
  I really hope that they don't take it personally; if they do, they should
feel free to pie me, because I would deserve it.   It's a hard job,
particularly with people like us as end-users.
>