Re: [89attendees] IPv6 was : best prepaid phone+data for area

thanks neil,

its just the Security Industrial Complex and US controls via the w3c and other mechanisms seem to have stymied development
dave

On 28 Feb 2014, at 23:58, neil.mcrae@bt.com wrote:

> Don't think you can compare today's ability to deliver streaming traffic with 2001.
> 
> Easy for us to be negative about history but I look back and think all of us working in our own trenches have changed the world irrevocably - i hope in a decade we can look back and have changed the world all over again.
> 
> Neil 
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Misell
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014 19:47
> To: McRae,N,Neil,TNE R
> Cc: daedulus@btconnect.com; mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca; 89attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [89attendees] IPv6 was : best prepaid phone+data for area
> 
> neil,
> having watched september 11th on the BT martlesham futures network, sending my placement student to watch live feeds from New York, I knew at the time that we neded v6. v4 feeds could not handle the demand. Here we are 10+ years later, but now with Multipath IP and paranoid  proxies used as taps all over the place, what went wrong!
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Dave
> 
> David S. Misell MSc CISSP MBCS
> +44 (0)7710 380044
> misell.dave (Skype)
> 
> > On 28 Feb 2014, at 14:45, neil.mcrae@bt.com wrote:
> > 
> > I think the V6 situation in the UK is far from ideal but the big 4
> > providers have been fighting it out on other more profitable fronts.
> > 
> > Within the next 12 months I think the big 4 will all offer it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Neil.
> > 
> >> On 25/02/2014 17:44, "t.p." <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Yes, the question was too coy but was meant to be about the availability
> >> of IPv6 at IETF89 over any form of network, my experience being that the
> >> UK is a long way behind most countries in making IPv6 available.  I
> >> assumed that the IETF infrastructure would provide it, as it has done
> >> for years, but wondered if it would have to be over an IPv4 tunnel:-(
> >> 
> >> Tom Petch
> >> 
> >> 
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> >> From: "Michael Richardson" <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:58 PM
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