Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest

Thanks, Alexa.  I take it that we're subscribed to both 89attendees and
89all when we check that box during registration.  If we can't separate
those two in the process, I suppose I can just unsubscribe from the noisy
one once it's no longer useful.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com> wrote:

> For those who worry that they'll miss important meeting announcements by
> opting out of the general attendees list, you should know that we have a
> separate mailing list at each meeting (e.g. 89all@ietf.org) that we use
> for important announcements, for just the reason you mention. Only
> Secretariat, IAD, IETF Chair and a few others are permitted to send to this
> list, which means that it has little traffic and is reserved for important
> communication.
>
> Alexa
>
> On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
>
>> Purely IMO, anyone who is complaining multiple times on this
>> list who has not had a serious conversation with hotel
>> management (not just front desk staff) about realistic solutions
>> and alternatives is less serious about having problems addressed
>> than they are about the joys of the complaining process.
>>
>> Once we solve harassment and diversity problems perhaps we can
>> go to work on whining.  :-(
>>
>>
> I have to say that every time I register, it takes me a while to decide
> whether to click on the "Yes, I want to be on the meeting attendees list".
> The decision gets harder each time; I don't want to miss some key
> announcements from the Secretariat or IETF management, or from people with
> good local knowledge.  But in the vast majority of cases, once I'm at the
> hotel, the list is effectively noise to me, and it seems to be trending
> toward more noise rather than less.
>
> Do we perhaps need a separate per-meeting list where people can do their
> write-only complaining?
>
> -MSK
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