Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest

For those who worry that they'll miss important meeting announcements by opting out of the general attendees list, you should know that we have a separate mailing list at each meeting (e.g. 89all@ietf.org) that we use for important announcements, for just the reason you mention. Only Secretariat, IAD, IETF Chair and a few others are permitted to send to this list, which means that it has little traffic and is reserved for important communication.

Alexa

On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:
> Purely IMO, anyone who is complaining multiple times on this
> list who has not had a serious conversation with hotel
> management (not just front desk staff) about realistic solutions
> and alternatives is less serious about having problems addressed
> than they are about the joys of the complaining process.
> 
> Once we solve harassment and diversity problems perhaps we can
> go to work on whining.  :-(
> 
> 
> I have to say that every time I register, it takes me a while to decide whether to click on the "Yes, I want to be on the meeting attendees list".  The decision gets harder each time; I don't want to miss some key announcements from the Secretariat or IETF management, or from people with good local knowledge.  But in the vast majority of cases, once I'm at the hotel, the list is effectively noise to me, and it seems to be trending toward more noise rather than less.
> 
> Do we perhaps need a separate per-meeting list where people can do their write-only complaining?
> 
> -MSK
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