Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 14:41 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest
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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

> Purely IMO, anyone who is complaining multiple times on this
> list who has not had a serious conversation with hotel
> management (not just front desk staff) about realistic solutions
> and alternatives is less serious about having problems addressed
> than they are about the joys of the complaining process.
>
> Once we solve harassment and diversity problems perhaps we can
> go to work on whining.  :-(
>
>
I have to say that every time I register, it takes me a while to decide
whether to click on the "Yes, I want to be on the meeting attendees list".
The decision gets harder each time; I don't want to miss some key
announcements from the Secretariat or IETF management, or from people with
good local knowledge.  But in the vast majority of cases, once I'm at the
hotel, the list is effectively noise to me, and it seems to be trending
toward more noise rather than less.

Do we perhaps need a separate per-meeting list where people can do their
write-only complaining?

-MSK

[89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting h… John C Klensin
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Simon Perreault
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Wiley, Glen
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Randy Bush
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Chris Griffiths
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Ted Lemon
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… David Misell
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… David Misell
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… George Michaelson
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Matt Lepinski
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Murray S. Kucherawy
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Alexa Morris
[89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers & fe… Dave Cottlehuber
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Warren Kumari
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Alia Atlas
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … David Misell
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Olle E. Johansson
Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Murray S. Kucherawy
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Carlos M. Martinez
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Kostas Pentikousis
Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Ted Lemon