Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest

"Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 12:53 UTC

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From: "Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, "89attendees@ietf.org" <89attendees@ietf.org>
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+1

Enjoying the venue, hotel and WG meetings :)
-- 
Glen Wiley
KK4SFV

Sr. Engineer
The Hive, Verisign, Inc.




On 3/5/14 7:35 AM, "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

>Hi.
>
>For those Who are griping about this hotel and enjoying it, some
>small perspective...
>
>(1) For a number of years, our fairly regular (northern
>hemisphere) winter location was Minneapolis.  Some of us really
>liked that venue; others hated it.  Today's high temperature in
>Minneapolis is expected to be -3C.  That is part of a
>considerable warming trend from recent days.  It is also not
>snowing in large quantities, but I gather that is unusual for
>this winter.  We could be there, dealing with little tunnels and
>trails and afraid to actually go outdoors lest various body
>parts immediately freeze.
>
>(2) You are in a hotel-rich area or a hotel-rich city with very
>good public transport.  If you are really as unhappy here as
>some of you seem to be, might a suggest negotiating an early
>checkout with the hotel manager and moving elsewhere.  I don't
>know anything about the relationship between the two hotels but
>note that there is another Hilton at Paddington Station, only a
>few blocks away... it seems possible that you could make easy
>arrangements for a transfer if you thought you would do better
>there.
>
>Purely IMO, anyone who is complaining multiple times on this
>list who has not had a serious conversation with hotel
>management (not just front desk staff) about realistic solutions
>and alternatives is less serious about having problems addressed
>than they are about the joys of the complaining process.
>
>Once we solve harassment and diversity problems perhaps we can
>go to work on whining.  :-(
>
>    john
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