Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting hotel grpe-fest
"Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com> Wed, 05 March 2014 12:53 UTC
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From: "Wiley, Glen" <gwiley@verisign.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>,
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+1 Enjoying the venue, hotel and WG meetings :) -- Glen Wiley KK4SFV Sr. Engineer The Hive, Verisign, Inc. On 3/5/14 7:35 AM, "John C Klensin" <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: >Hi. > >For those Who are griping about this hotel and enjoying it, some >small perspective... > >(1) For a number of years, our fairly regular (northern >hemisphere) winter location was Minneapolis. Some of us really >liked that venue; others hated it. Today's high temperature in >Minneapolis is expected to be -3C. That is part of a >considerable warming trend from recent days. It is also not >snowing in large quantities, but I gather that is unusual for >this winter. We could be there, dealing with little tunnels and >trails and afraid to actually go outdoors lest various body >parts immediately freeze. > >(2) You are in a hotel-rich area or a hotel-rich city with very >good public transport. If you are really as unhappy here as >some of you seem to be, might a suggest negotiating an early >checkout with the hotel manager and moving elsewhere. I don't >know anything about the relationship between the two hotels but >note that there is another Hilton at Paddington Station, only a >few blocks away... it seems possible that you could make easy >arrangements for a transfer if you thought you would do better >there. > >Purely IMO, anyone who is complaining multiple times on this >list who has not had a serious conversation with hotel >management (not just front desk staff) about realistic solutions >and alternatives is less serious about having problems addressed >than they are about the joys of the complaining process. > >Once we solve harassment and diversity problems perhaps we can >go to work on whining. :-( > > john > >_______________________________________________ >89attendees mailing list >89attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/89attendees
- [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeting h… John C Klensin
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Simon Perreault
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Wiley, Glen
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Randy Bush
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Chris Griffiths
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Ted Lemon
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… David Misell
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… David Misell
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… George Michaelson
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Matt Lepinski
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Alexa Morris
- [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers & fe… Dave Cottlehuber
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Warren Kumari
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Alia Atlas
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … David Misell
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [89attendees] Enjoying the almost-every-meeti… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Kostas Pentikousis
- Re: [89attendees] Thank-you organisers, speakers … Ted Lemon