Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty good
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 07 March 2014 15:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty good
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--On Friday, 07 March, 2014 13:36 +0100 Hosnieh Rafiee <ietf@rozanak.com> wrote: > Just a far suggestion > > It would be good that there was possibility like a classroom > that the remote participant could really talk (raise their > hands and the jabber scripter gives him/her permission for > microphone) and talk. Then I guess the remote participant > wasn't something different than the real participant >... Sadly (from my point of view), we know how to do this at least moderately well. It requires some conventions about how the Jabber user (or other remote) participant gets the attention of someone in the room and how the person in the room gets the attention of the chair, ideally on a priority basis to compensate for the "slow typing" problem you mention. It ideally requires someone watching the Jabber list carefully who is not also charged with scribing and a convention about what entries that are typed into Jabber are to go to the microphone (prefixing comments with "Mic:" has been used a lot. In Vancouver, we tried giving Jabber scribes and others who were likely to carry messages to the microphone special hats so they could easily be seen by chairs, but I'm not convinced it accomplished anything. And, of course, if there are conventions, everyone needs to be told about them. Of course, more advanced technologies like Meetecho and WebEx can help too, but also require attention. But I think the problem is rather more in our taking remote participation seriously enough to actually execute on what I think we know how to do than in not knowing how. And, also, probably sadly, being an old timer and complaining a lot helps too. best, john
- [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty good Tim Bray
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … Rosen, Brian
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … joel jaeggli
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … Alexa Morris
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … John C Klensin
- Re: [89attendees] Remote participation is pretty … Hosnieh Rafiee