Re: [91attendees] *** Reminder and update "Nerds in Paradise"T-shirts ***

[Alia Atlas <[e-mail]>]

<sarcasm> Women don't have to wear pink to identify their gender; nor do
girls.  Strangely enough, even men wearing pink are not misidentified
(terror!) as women; boys who do and are misidentified can manage to survive
undamaged. </sarcasm>

As for having women's sizes, I don't care about fitted but I do care about
not having a design that tucks into my waist because of the assumption of
an extra foot of height.

Alia

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Wendy Roome <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I wasn't involved with IETF back then, but I doubt there were more women
> then than now.
>
> The original post said the shirts were printed locally. Most likely, that
> was the cheapest color the print shop had in stock. Also, I suspect pink
> tourist tee shirts are more common in Hawaii than in (say) North Dakota.
>
> But guys, think about it. Yes, there are women who insist on wearing pink.
> But most of them would jump headfirst into a volcano before wearing a
> "nerd" tee shirt. And those of us who would gladly proclaim our nerdhood
> to the world generally don't have a hangup about wearing pink. If
> anything, for me, pink is a turnoff.
>
> If the IETF wants to cater to women, offer tee shirts in women's sizes,
> blast it!! In other words, fitted! I don't particularly care about the
> color. But I do want something that doesn¹t hang on me like a shapeless
> baggy sack!
>
> Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. Thanks for letting me rant! :-)
>
>         - Wendy Roome
>
>
> On 10/20/2014, 10:35, "Tassos Chatzithomaoglou" <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> >Aren't there any other color options?
> >I'm getting the impression that in the early IETF days there were more
> >women attending the events. =-O
> >
> >--
> >Tassos
> >
> >Ole Jacobsen wrote on 18/10/2014 05:02:
> >> As close as possible to the original, i.e, pink.
> >>
> >> Ole
> >>
> >>
> >> Ole J. Jacobsen
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> >>
> >> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Ole,
> >>>
> >>> What color will the shirt be?
> >>>
> >>> Glenn
> >>> --------
> >>> Sent from my cell, please forgive the typos
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> **** UPDATE: We will offer women's style T-shirts as well as the
> >>>> originally announced range of sizes. If you have already ordered
> >>>> and would like to make a change, please respond with the details.
> >>>>
> >>>> **** REMINDER: The deadline is approaching, send in your order today!
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear IETF 91 Attendee,
> >>>>
> >>>> Twenty-five years ago, the IETF met in Honolulu for IETF 15. This was
> >>>> long before the days of hosts and sponsors and thus long before there
> >>>> were any official T-shirts for attendees.
> >>>>
> >>>> A small group of IETFers got together and decided that it would be
> >>>>fun
> >>>> to create a T-shirt. The now-famous "Nerds in Paradise" imprint was
> >>>> designed by Julia Topolcic and became, as far as we know, the first
> >>>> IETF shirt ever. It was printed locally in Honolulu and distributed
> >>>>to
> >>>> those who had signed up for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is what the shirt looked like:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.blkk.com/_Media/img_4721-2.jpeg
> >>>>
> >>>> To commemorate IETF 15 and that T-shirt, we are planning to produce a
> >>>> Version 2.0 in the same ad hoc fashion, based closely on the original
> >>>> design. The cost per T-shirt will about US $ 15.00, priced to offset
> >>>> the cost of this excercise. The final price will depend on how many
> >>>> shirts we order. If there are surplus funds, we will donate them to
> >>>> the Open Internet Endowment:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/articles/open-internet-endowment-0
> >>>>
> >>>> If you wish to pre-order, please let us know what size and how many
> >>>> you want by 23:59:00 UTC on October 22, 2014. Available sizes are:
> >>>> Men's and Women's: S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL.
> >>>>
> >>>> Send your order to: [e-mail]. You will be required to pay in
> >>>> CASH when collecting your shirt in Honolulu. We expect to distribute
> >>>> the shirts on Sunday afternoon, November 9.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mail orders are NOT available, we suggest you ask an IETF 91 attendee
> >>>> to collect the shirt for you if you are unable to attend in person.
> >>>>
> >>>> See you in Honolulu!
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Hinden
> >>>> Joel A. Jaeggli
> >>>> Ole J. Jacobsen
> >>>>
> >>>>
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