Re: [91attendees] *** Reminder and update "Nerds in Paradise"T-shirts ***

I wasn't involved with IETF back then, but I doubt there were more women
then than now.

The original post said the shirts were printed locally. Most likely, that
was the cheapest color the print shop had in stock. Also, I suspect pink
tourist tee shirts are more common in Hawaii than in (say) North Dakota.

But guys, think about it. Yes, there are women who insist on wearing pink.
But most of them would jump headfirst into a volcano before wearing a
"nerd" tee shirt. And those of us who would gladly proclaim our nerdhood
to the world generally don't have a hangup about wearing pink. If
anything, for me, pink is a turnoff.

If the IETF wants to cater to women, offer tee shirts in women's sizes,
blast it!! In other words, fitted! I don't particularly care about the
color. But I do want something that doesn¹t hang on me like a shapeless
baggy sack!

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. Thanks for letting me rant! :-)

	- Wendy Roome

On 10/20/2014, 10:35, "Tassos Chatzithomaoglou" <achatz@forthnet.gr> wrote:

>Aren't there any other color options?
>I'm getting the impression that in the early IETF days there were more
>women attending the events. =-O
>
>--
>Tassos
>
>Ole Jacobsen wrote on 18/10/2014 05:02:
>> As close as possible to the original, i.e, pink.
>>
>> Ole
>>
>>
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>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ole,
>>>
>>> What color will the shirt be?
>>>
>>> Glenn
>>> --------
>>> Sent from my cell, please forgive the typos
>>>
>>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **** UPDATE: We will offer women's style T-shirts as well as the
>>>> originally announced range of sizes. If you have already ordered
>>>> and would like to make a change, please respond with the details.
>>>>
>>>> **** REMINDER: The deadline is approaching, send in your order today!
>>>>
>>>> Dear IETF 91 Attendee,
>>>>
>>>> Twenty-five years ago, the IETF met in Honolulu for IETF 15. This was
>>>> long before the days of hosts and sponsors and thus long before there
>>>> were any official T-shirts for attendees.
>>>>
>>>> A small group of IETFers got together and decided that it would be
>>>>fun 
>>>> to create a T-shirt. The now-famous "Nerds in Paradise" imprint was
>>>> designed by Julia Topolcic and became, as far as we know, the first
>>>> IETF shirt ever. It was printed locally in Honolulu and distributed
>>>>to 
>>>> those who had signed up for it.
>>>>
>>>> This is what the shirt looked like:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.blkk.com/_Media/img_4721-2.jpeg
>>>>
>>>> To commemorate IETF 15 and that T-shirt, we are planning to produce a
>>>> Version 2.0 in the same ad hoc fashion, based closely on the original
>>>> design. The cost per T-shirt will about US $ 15.00, priced to offset
>>>> the cost of this excercise. The final price will depend on how many
>>>> shirts we order. If there are surplus funds, we will donate them to
>>>> the Open Internet Endowment:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/articles/open-internet-endowment-0
>>>>
>>>> If you wish to pre-order, please let us know what size and how many
>>>> you want by 23:59:00 UTC on October 22, 2014. Available sizes are:
>>>> Men's and Women's: S, M, L, XL, XXL, XXXL.
>>>>
>>>> Send your order to: nerds@ietf.org. You will be required to pay in
>>>> CASH when collecting your shirt in Honolulu. We expect to distribute
>>>> the shirts on Sunday afternoon, November 9.
>>>>
>>>> Mail orders are NOT available, we suggest you ask an IETF 91 attendee
>>>> to collect the shirt for you if you are unable to attend in person.
>>>>
>>>> See you in Honolulu!
>>>>
>>>> Bob Hinden
>>>> Joel A. Jaeggli
>>>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>>>>
>>>>
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