Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy

Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2015 21:39 UTC

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From: Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com>
To: "Rodriguez, Iben" <Iben.Rodriguez@spirent.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy
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пятница, 24 июля 2015 г. пользователь Rodriguez, Iben написал:

>  Of course there are 2 sides to every story.  I’ve had to deal with this
> as a parent of teen age daughters who are experiencing this type of reverse
> discrimination based on the way they dress at school.  If a teacher were to
> tell them their clothing style is distracting to the boys in the class we
> have a talk with that teacher there, and the boys.  Unfortunately the girls
> need to deal with this too but the world is changing.
>
>  I came to the conference for the first time with a suit coat and jacket
> ready to dress up as if for a business meeting. When I checked in I see
> everyone in t-shirts and shorts. This is great!
>
>  Let’s not pass judgement on someone’s role or respectful dress situation
> these days. It goes both ways.
>
>  Our efforts should be on improving the rights for those that are truly
> oppressed by their cultural situation.
>
>  Are we seriously thinking of instituting a dress code policy for these
> events? How would it read?  Let’s not go down this road.
>
>
Great!
80 lvl!
;)

>
>   On 7/24/15, 11:35 AM, "93attendees on behalf of Ondrej Filip" <
> 93attendees-bounces@ietf.org
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> of ondrej.filip@nic.cz
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ondrej.filip@nic.cz');>> wrote:
>
>   Hello!
> First of all let me to apologize everybody who felt offended. I am
> really sorry for that we did something unfortunate and as a CEO of the
> company I take the full responsibility.
>
>  Please, let me explain the background. Those ladies have been working
> with CZ.NIC for a longer time although not as full time employees.
> But I am telling this to explain that they we have not employed them
> just for the purpose of this event. Both have university degrees
> although not a technical background in IETF related stuff. But they
> know our company very well.
>
>  Again, I fully understand the point and I apologize for our lack of
> sensitivity. I am very sorry.
>
>  Ondrej Filip
>
>
>
>  On 24.7.2015 10:31, Jose Saldana wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>  In my opinion, the bits&bytes booth with the young ladies in short
> skirts, etc. was a bit... let's say ... disrespectful.
>  I mean, using women just for "decorative" purposes is something I don't
> like. It is common in trade fairs, sports events, etc. But the IETF should
> avoid it (IMHO).
>  Best regards,
>  Jose
>  Sent from my smartphone
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