Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy
Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com> Fri, 24 July 2015 21:39 UTC
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From: Василий Долматов <vdolmatov@gmail.com>
To: "Rodriguez, Iben" <Iben.Rodriguez@spirent.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy
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пятница, 24 июля 2015 г. пользователь Rodriguez, Iben написал: > Of course there are 2 sides to every story. I’ve had to deal with this > as a parent of teen age daughters who are experiencing this type of reverse > discrimination based on the way they dress at school. If a teacher were to > tell them their clothing style is distracting to the boys in the class we > have a talk with that teacher there, and the boys. Unfortunately the girls > need to deal with this too but the world is changing. > > I came to the conference for the first time with a suit coat and jacket > ready to dress up as if for a business meeting. When I checked in I see > everyone in t-shirts and shorts. This is great! > > Let’s not pass judgement on someone’s role or respectful dress situation > these days. It goes both ways. > > Our efforts should be on improving the rights for those that are truly > oppressed by their cultural situation. > > Are we seriously thinking of instituting a dress code policy for these > events? How would it read? Let’s not go down this road. > > Great! 80 lvl! ;) > > On 7/24/15, 11:35 AM, "93attendees on behalf of Ondrej Filip" < > 93attendees-bounces@ietf.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','93attendees-bounces@ietf.org');> on behalf > of ondrej.filip@nic.cz > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ondrej.filip@nic.cz');>> wrote: > > Hello! > First of all let me to apologize everybody who felt offended. I am > really sorry for that we did something unfortunate and as a CEO of the > company I take the full responsibility. > > Please, let me explain the background. Those ladies have been working > with CZ.NIC for a longer time although not as full time employees. > But I am telling this to explain that they we have not employed them > just for the purpose of this event. Both have university degrees > although not a technical background in IETF related stuff. But they > know our company very well. > > Again, I fully understand the point and I apologize for our lack of > sensitivity. I am very sorry. > > Ondrej Filip > > > > On 24.7.2015 10:31, Jose Saldana wrote: > > Hi all, > In my opinion, the bits&bytes booth with the young ladies in short > skirts, etc. was a bit... let's say ... disrespectful. > I mean, using women just for "decorative" purposes is something I don't > like. It is common in trade fairs, sports events, etc. But the IETF should > avoid it (IMHO). > Best regards, > Jose > Sent from my smartphone > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','93attendees@ietf.org');> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees > > > > -- > ( CZ.NIC z.s.p.o. ) > ------------------------------------------------- > Ondrej Filip - CEO > > Office : Milesovska 5, Praha 3, Czech Republic > Email : ondrej.filip@nic.cz > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ondrej.filip@nic.cz');> http://www.nic.cz > Private: feela@network.cz > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','feela@network.cz');> > ------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','93attendees@ietf.org');> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees > > Spirent Communications e-mail confidentiality. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail contains confidential and / or privileged information > belonging to Spirent Communications plc, its affiliates and / or > subsidiaries. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution and / or the taking of > any action based upon reliance on the contents of this transmission is > strictly forbidden. If you have received this message in error please > notify the sender by return e-mail and delete it from your system. > > Spirent Communications plc > Northwood Park, Gatwick Road, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 9XN, United > Kingdom. > Tel No. +44 (0) 1293 767676 > Fax No. +44 (0) 1293 767677 > > Registered in England Number 470893 > Registered at Northwood Park, Gatwick Road, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 > 9XN, United Kingdom. > > Or if within the US, > > Spirent Communications, > 27349 Agoura Road, Calabasas, CA, 91301, USA. > Tel No. 1-818-676- 2300 >
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