Re: [93attendees] Reminder: CITIZENFOUR screening *tomorrow* at 7pm

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

Hiya,

On 30/07/15 20:01, Christian Huitema wrote:
> This was an answer to a question by Juan Carlos, and the general idea
> is that we have to be concerned not just with encryption of content,
> but also with the leakage of meta-data at various layers in the
> stack. Snowden was for example commenting on listening devices that
> record radio traffic. Imagine drones circling abve cities and
> recording the IMSI of cell phones, or the MAC addresses used by the
> clients of Wi-Fi networks. That can lead to continuous tracking of
> devices and their owners -- and we should be doing something about
> it.

And luckily some of us (notably Christian! :-) [1,2,3] are trying to
tackle those meta-data issues. Which in most cases has to be done one
protocol at a time. Which means there's plenty of work to go around;-)

So if anyone has ideas about how to improve the privacy properties of
some IETF protocol in a similar fashion, best would be to send a
mail to [e-mail] (*) which we're still using to triage pieces
of work like that. Ideally folks proposing we do stuff will have had
the energy to write an I-D and we can figure out how best to process
that. Processing such an I-D could pointing the authors to some WG
(such as the DNSOPS work on QNAME minimisation referred to earlier) or
AD sponsoring the draft when it's ready or we can form a new WG when
needed. All of those are possible, and have been done with previously
suggested work in this space, and we're entirely happy to do more of
that whenever sensible ideas are presented.

Cheers,
S.

(*) If you're shy or unsure, feel free to mail Kathleen or I first
and we can try help.

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-anonymity-profile
[2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huitema-privsec-harmfulname
[3] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huitema-6man-random-addresses