Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule
Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> Mon, 20 July 2015 23:40 UTC
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Randall Gellens wrote: > The meeting schedule, in my view, runs too late in the evening. Tonight's > session ended at 7:50 PM, meaning it was 8:15 before one could even start > trying to go to dinner. This means it's 9:00 before one is able to eat, which > in my view, is far too late. I know people hated the old-old schedule that > went until 10, but at least that had a dinner break at a 6:00, a reasonable > hour; if we absolutely must go late, that was a better way to do it. The > schedule this time forces people to either try to sleep on a full stomach > (which I can't do), skip dinner, or stay up way late and be sleep-deprived, > fueled by caffeine and adrenaline (which I think makes for very bad meetings > and bad technical work). > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only Randall, I agree with you, but the topic deserves discussion beyond the current attendee list, so I have taken the liberty of copying the IESG and IAOC on this reply. As you know, the "European dinner schedule" was introduced at one of our Paris meetings to account for the fact that many restaurants there would not even be open at our previous 17:30 - 18:00 end time. It seems that some of our current end times have slipped beyond the original concept, so I think this deserves some further discussion. (Of course I have a personal interest in this since I am arranging an event in Yokohama that I am hoping to start at 19:00, but I still agree that we need to re-think the schedule) Ole Jacobsen Principal without Chorus Organdemo.info http://www.yokohama-organdemo.org/
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randy Bush
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Bob Hinden
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Yoav Nir
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Howard, Lee
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Alia Atlas
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ben Campbell
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Kyle Rose
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Jared Mauch
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- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Charlie Perkins
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Aaron Falk
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- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Lixia Zhang
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
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