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Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...

Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> Mon, 27 July 2015 13:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [93attendees] I was wondering...
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> On 27 Jul 2015, at 15:11, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 02:27:02PM +0200,
> Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@nic.cz> wrote 
> a message of 28 lines which said:
> 
>> Note, however, that classification of sexist behaviors is subjective
> 
> Certainly not: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a good
> starting point and, as its name says, it is universal (like the IETF).

Please show me how the appearance of those girls in the event violated the Declaration.

Don’t get me wrong: I think it wasn’t appropriate because IMO marketing people simply don’t belong there. I don’t agree it has anything to do with sexism or misogyny.

Thanks, Lada

> 
>> US views needn’t be universally accepted/acceptable around the
>> globe.
> 
> No need to come from the US to see these uses of women as sexist. I'm
> french and was offended as well (and sorry for the IETF women).
> 

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