Re: [93attendees] U.S. Attendees: Export Control Documentation??

Diego Garcia del Rio <diego@nuagenetworks.net> Sat, 25 July 2015 11:42 UTC

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I Work for one of the big companies and regularly need to deal with export
control. But never for a laptop I was carrying for my own.

If I had to ship equipment to a conference, yes. But for personal carry
never



On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:21, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:



On Saturday, July 25, 2015, Livingood, Jason <
Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com> wrote:

>   Hi – I was wondering if any other U.S.-based attendees have been asked
> by their employers to fill out “export control forms” for the laptop you
> took along to the IETF focuses on so-called “dual use” technologies.
>
>  This was the first time during international travel that I was asked to
> do so and, frankly, the whole thing seems kind of odd. Our legal folks said
> that all large companies do this, especially companies like Cisco, Apple,
> Facebook, Google, etc., but I have never heard another IETF participant
> mention it.
>
>
Me neither... Odd....

W



> The form I filled out had a special emphasis on any software that
> contained * encryption*, and for each line item of software (e.g. MS
> Office) they located an Export Control Classification Number (ECCN) that
> they then included in whatever they sent to the U.S. government (presumably
> the Dept. of Commerce, Dept. of State, Dept. of Treasury).
>
>  Thanks for any feedback!
>
>  Jason
>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf

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