Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> Fri, 24 July 2015 11:10 UTC

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:37:31AM +0000,
 Rodriguez, Iben <Iben.Rodriguez@spirent.com> wrote 
 a message of 212 lines which said:

> I’ve had to deal with this as a parent of teen age daughters who are
> experiencing this type of reverse discrimination based on the way
> they dress at school.  If a teacher were to tell them their clothing
> style is distracting to the boys in the class we have a talk with
> that teacher there, and the boys.

I agree, but:

> Let’s not pass judgement on someone’s role or respectful dress
> situation these days. It goes both ways.

In this specific case (the "booth babes" during the Bits'n'Bytes
event), the women were not exercising their freedom to dress as they
want, they were on duty and had an uniform chosen by their
employer. So, I agree with your arguments but they don't apply here.

> Are we seriously thinking of instituting a dress code policy for
> these events? 

I hope not. Most of these "codes of conduct" and other written
policies are lame, anyway, such as
<http://ietf.org/iesg/statement/ietf-anti-harassment-policy.html>
which says "Those who participate in the IETF are expected to behave
according to professional standards" as if amateurs were allowed to
harass at will. But, here, it was not IETF participants deciding to
dress in strange and unusual (and objectionable for some people) ways,
it was a company deciding to hire professional booth babes, which is
quite different.