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Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting

Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Wed, 15 July 2015 15:47 UTC

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 08:47:53 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 07:44:38AM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 7/15/2015 6:58 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > The IETF is idemnifying everything participants say already via the note well,
> 
> On what basis does the Note Well constitute a guarantee of
> indemnification for anyone.

> And by the way, who do you believe is being indemnified by the IETF?

I think the note well is trying to do its best to idemnify the IETF
and its participants against lawsuits claiming infringing on trade secret
or claims of novelty for things mentioned in public at the IETF.

> (In case there is confusion about the term:
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indemnify)

Sure, i am not a native, let me know if i am misunderstanding it.

Cheers
    Toerless

> d/
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> -- 
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net

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