Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule

Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 14:19 UTC

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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Ted Lemon wrote:
>
> > Impositions always seem small if you are not the one bearing them.
> > I would appreciate it if you could stop denying that the problem
> > with your proposal that I have raised is a problem.  It may be that
> > what I want is actually not important, but it’s a real problem for
> > me, even if it’s not a problem for you.  Furthermore, solving the
> > problem that we are making poor use of time during IETF f2f meetings
> > by cramming the agenda with yet another interval when we don’t have
> > a break is not going to solve the problem.  Instead, it’s going to
> > result in more people skipping the plenary.
> >
> > Why not instead solve the problem that we don’t make good use of
> > IETF meeting time?
> >
>
> And I would appreciate if you would stop implying that a specific
> detailed food option is or was implied by Henning's suggestion. Can we
> discuss the question: "Can we have lunch during the plenary?" instead,
> please?
>
> As for making better use of meeting time, yes, I agree with you and
> that is why I bounced the question to the wider audience beyond the
> attendee list. And I also agree that having lunch during the plenary
> may not be the best option, but I think it at least merits some
> discussion. We do, after all, regularly host similar events with the
> lunchtime host speakers etc.
>
[MB] Based upon the current meeting schedules, we only have one slot left
whereby one could consider scheduling a plenary during lunch.  We already
have ISOC speakers on Tuesday, WG chairs on Wednesday and host lunch
speakers on Thursday.  And, Friday lunchtime is used by IESG/IAB to wrap-up
and ISOC to hold their meetings with members. So, it might be reasonable to
discuss the option of perhaps having the IAB tech topic during Monday's
lunch.  But, I don't think all aspects of IAB tech plenary or admin plenary
are well suited for a lunchtime session.  And, I don't think it's
necessarily fair to add the burden of arranging lunches for the masses to
the secretariat's responsibilities and the IETF budget, unless of course
folks want to exchange the $s that are allocated for cookies for sandwiches
on Mondays.  [/MB]

>
> Ole
>
> PS
>
> Just for the record: The hotel-prepared sandwiches here in Prague have
> been quite excellent, but that really is neither here nor there.
>

[MB] That may be, but you have no dietary restrictions and for those of us
that do, the options have not been good and in most cases Monday is our day
to do our reconnaissance to find something that does work.  It would be
really good if folks that don't have dietary restrictions not make
judgements on concerns raised by those that do. [/MB]

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