Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Wed, 15 July 2015 13:58 UTC
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:58:04 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
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The IETF is idemnifying everything participants say already via the note well, i don't understand why they wouldn't want to do it for the use of the IETF network. Network note well: IETF will observe all traffic on the IETF network. Whatever you send/receive on that network is not your traffic but owned by IETF. IETF will do its best to get as much research and commercial value out of you using the IETF network as IETF sees fit. I just hate captive portals, otherwise i'd recommend for the IETF net to have one with the above disclaimer before one can connect. On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 06:39:42AM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 7/15/2015 5:15 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > > By having a device set to join the IETF network it seems > > that opting-in to share your data has occured. > > > That's a reasonable view. The problem is that so are other, competing > views. > > If the world were subject to your preferences, your view would hold > sway. However in this world, some of those competing views are likely > to have professional and/or legal force. > > > d/ > -- > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees
- [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeti… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jari Arkko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Chris Elliott
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Leif Johansson
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randy Bush
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Tim Chown
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Rolf Winter
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Benson Schliesser
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… McDonald, Alex
- Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the m… Randall Gellens