Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy

On Friday, July 24, 2015, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Richard Scheffenegger <rscheff@gmx.at
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > I'm with Fred.
> >
> > However, having been attracted to their booth, I found in the discussions
> > with the engineers present, that the level of expertise was not on-par
> with
> > many of the questions...
>
> tee-hee. That's because I sucked ondrej outside and grilled him about
> what they were doing for an hour!
>
>
> > They would  have had to bring the actual electrical and software
> engineers
> > working on the product to the booth on events like this.
>
> I am extremely encouraged by what they are doing. They are using the
> most open chip on the market today (armada 385), which has truly
> excellent linux support for many features and offloads, it is fast
> enough to drive gigE well, and there is quite a bit of optimization
> that can be done to make it even better like adding bql to driver and
> toning down the
>
> (the same chip is also in the linksys 1200ac v2, which we have had a
> great deal of success with thus far)
>
> Their intent seems to be to produce an entirely open design, which
> could be used as CPE and home router devices, the board and design
> rebranded by various ODMS and ISPs, utilized with SFP and a choice of
> wifi cards, and they got a key design criteria of mine right - there
> are *real* ethernet ports for the wan and lan interfaces, which makes
> things like link detection, hardware flow control, and fq_codel "just
> work" -- which is not the case on nearly all new cpe designs which
> route everything through the switch.
>
> They also made a priority automatic updates for openwrt, which warms
> the cockles of my heart.

+ lots.

I have, and use, a Turis box at home as my primary CPE. It has some great
features and they all Just Work.

It has a good graphical UI for when you just want to quickly look at
something, but still gives you access to all of the underlying stuff then
you need something more powerful. It automagically updates itself when
needed, and fulfills my primary requirement - I don't have to think about
it...

> This box is now my prime candidate for a renewed cerowrt-like effort
> to produce a extremely capable home router, suitable for further R&D
> into better, faster, safer edge gateways, and certainly could do
> homenet better than nearly everything else currently on the market.
>
> I hope to look more into the board, and various pcie based 802.11ac
> cards in the coming months, to tackle wifi part of the problem, but
> despite the unfortunate choice of marketing methods, am utterly
> delighted with them having been there at this bits and bytes.
>
> This was the best bits and bytes ever, IMHO, on every other front.
>
> > Best regards,
> >  Richard
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > To: "Lisa Lorenzin" <llorenzin@pulsesecure.net <javascript:;>>
> > Cc: "Rodriguez, Iben" <Iben.Rodriguez@spirent.com <javascript:;>>;
> "Ondrej Filip"
> > <ondrej.filip@nic.cz <javascript:;>>; <93attendees@ietf.org
> <javascript:;>>
> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 5:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [93attendees] IETF dress code policy
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Lisa Lorenzin <llorenzin@pulsesecure.net
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Personally, if a lead developer / engineer at a Bits & Bytes demo was
> >> wearing heels,
> >
> >
> > I would not object to a pretty engineer - we need more of them. These
> gals
> > weren't engineers. That, at least for my part, was my concern. They were
> > there to attract nearby guys to the table. Life is too short for that.
> >
> >
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> --
> Dave Täht
> worldwide bufferbloat report:
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat
> And:
> What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone?
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast
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-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf