Re: [93attendees] Internet Society Briefing Panel at IETF 93

[George Michaelson <[e-mail]>]

I went to a seminar where a UK expert described a possible 5G model as
beam-shaping on steroids. Cellular may not mean what we think it means when
the base-station has a phased-array antenna, and beam-forms to the people
who connect on a lower RF bandwidth to identify, and then get spot-signal
beamed to them, *in motion* at higher datarate.

WiFi and cellular might not mean much different than un-regulated and
regulated, once its beams, not cells.

-G

On 14 July 2015 at 19:41, Carlos M. Martinez <[e-mail]> wrote:

>  +1,
>
> not all places in the world are as privileged as Karlstad.
>
> s2
>
> -Carlos
>
> On 7/14/15 2:17 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Dave Taht <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> I am writing this on a boatbus in karlstad. Via the WiFi on board.
>>
>  ​ If it doesn't have a very long cord, chances are your boatbus has a
> radio network uplink that is cellular.  If that uplink is 3g, and you're
> multiplexing lots of traffic over that single uplink, you will be
> constrained at some times.  When it is LTE (or multilink cellular), you may
> be doing better.
>
>  But I think the real discussion points are for folks who aren't getting
> LTE any time soon.  See ISOC's recent report
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/globalinternetreport/> (especially
> section 2) for some graphs on where things are not quite so good as
> Karlstad.
>
>  regards,
>
>  Ted
>
>
>
>
>> What percentage of the next billion users will be WiFi rather than 3g or
>> lte?
>>  On Jul 14, 2015 9:20 AM, "Matthew Ford" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello -
>>>
>>> We are pleased to announce the Internet Society Briefing Panel at IETF
>>> 93: "Tackling Connectivity Diversity: Protocol Challenges for Constrained
>>> Radio Networks and Devices.”
>>>
>>> Due to high demand for limited seating, pre-registration is required to
>>> attend the Briefing Panel in person. See
>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-briefing-panel-ietf-93
>>> for session information and the registration link. Lunch will be provided
>>> for attendees.
>>>
>>> The Briefing Panel will also be webcast and audiocast. No registration
>>> is required for the webcast.
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> SESSION ABSTRACT
>>>
>>> In many areas, Internet connectivity is primarily via low-end mobile
>>> devices capable of only 2G or 3G connections to cellular networks. But many
>>> application developers live and work with much faster computing platforms
>>> and networking environments. Does the infrastructure need to change to
>>> accommodate the continuing use of these devices? Is this a transient
>>> condition of uneven development, or do we need to re-architect and
>>> re-design systems to better cope with connectivity diversity?
>>>
>>> Key transports had assumptions built on wireline networks. The next
>>> billion users won't be on wireline networks, and even current users with
>>> access to both wireless and wireline networks use wireless networks more
>>> often. What does designing for the networks they *will* be on look like -
>>> whether at the transport layer or in the application, or at the interface
>>> between the two?
>>>
>>> In this session during IETF 93, panelists will try to better understand
>>> the diversity of Internet connectivity and terminals, and discuss the
>>> challenges and responses to these modes of Internet connectivity including:
>>>
>>>         • How application developers are dealing with terminal and
>>> connectivity diversity
>>>         • Considerations for protocol developers
>>>         • How restricted connectivity impacts user behavior
>>>         • Design principles that could be extrapolated from the data and
>>> the technical responses to date
>>>         • How power management and connectivity management interact
>>>
>>> Moderator:
>>> Olaf Kolkman, Internet Society
>>>
>>> Panelists:
>>> Ted Hardie, independent
>>> Blake Matheny, Facebook
>>> Henning Wiemann, Ericsson
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> PANEL DETAILS
>>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 21 July 2015
>>> Venue: Hilton Prague
>>> Time: 11:45 AM - 12:45 PM (local time)
>>>
>>> We hope you can join us!
>>>
>>>
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