Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Tue, 21 July 2015 09:14 UTC

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Agreed.

I think the primary issue is that there are too many sessions per day,
presumably to minimize overlap. One could skip the late sessions if
desired (as I did yesterday), but in my case I was still unable to eat
dinner until 9:00 because I had dinner plans with fellow attendees who
*were* at those sessions. I'd almost rather the conference go one
additional day and otherwise be done by 6:00 every night.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Kireeti Kompella <kireeti@juniper.net> wrote:
> Speaking for myself, I far prefer this schedule to one that constrains you to an hour and a half of dinner, and wants you to then come back and meet some more.
>
> Kireeti.
>
>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 01:40, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Randall Gellens wrote:
>>>
>>> The meeting schedule, in my view, runs too late in the evening. Tonight's
>>> session ended at 7:50 PM, meaning it was 8:15 before one could even start
>>> trying to go to dinner.  This means it's 9:00 before one is able to eat, which
>>> in my view, is far too late.  I know people hated the old-old schedule that
>>> went until 10, but at least that had a dinner break at a 6:00, a reasonable
>>> hour; if we absolutely must go late, that was a better way to do it.  The
>>> schedule this time forces people to either try to sleep on a full stomach
>>> (which I can't do), skip dinner, or stay up way late and be sleep-deprived,
>>> fueled by caffeine and adrenaline (which I think makes for very bad meetings
>>> and bad technical work).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Randall Gellens
>>> Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
>>
>> Randall,
>>
>> I agree with you, but the topic deserves discussion beyond the current
>> attendee list, so I have taken the liberty of copying the IESG and
>> IAOC on this reply.
>>
>> As you know, the "European dinner schedule" was introduced at one of
>> our Paris meetings to account for the fact that many restaurants there
>> would not even be open at our previous 17:30 - 18:00 end time. It
>> seems that some of our current end times have slipped beyond the
>> original concept, so I think this deserves some further discussion.
>>
>> (Of course I have a personal interest in this since I am arranging an
>> event in Yokohama that I am hoping to start at 19:00, but I still
>> agree that we need to re-think the schedule)
>>
>> Ole Jacobsen
>> Principal without Chorus
>> Organdemo.info
>> http://www.yokohama-organdemo.org/
>>
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