Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule
Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Tue, 21 July 2015 09:14 UTC
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Agreed. I think the primary issue is that there are too many sessions per day, presumably to minimize overlap. One could skip the late sessions if desired (as I did yesterday), but in my case I was still unable to eat dinner until 9:00 because I had dinner plans with fellow attendees who *were* at those sessions. I'd almost rather the conference go one additional day and otherwise be done by 6:00 every night. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Kireeti Kompella <kireeti@juniper.net> wrote: > Speaking for myself, I far prefer this schedule to one that constrains you to an hour and a half of dinner, and wants you to then come back and meet some more. > > Kireeti. > >> On Jul 21, 2015, at 01:40, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote: >> >> >>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Randall Gellens wrote: >>> >>> The meeting schedule, in my view, runs too late in the evening. Tonight's >>> session ended at 7:50 PM, meaning it was 8:15 before one could even start >>> trying to go to dinner. This means it's 9:00 before one is able to eat, which >>> in my view, is far too late. I know people hated the old-old schedule that >>> went until 10, but at least that had a dinner break at a 6:00, a reasonable >>> hour; if we absolutely must go late, that was a better way to do it. The >>> schedule this time forces people to either try to sleep on a full stomach >>> (which I can't do), skip dinner, or stay up way late and be sleep-deprived, >>> fueled by caffeine and adrenaline (which I think makes for very bad meetings >>> and bad technical work). >>> >>> -- >>> Randall Gellens >>> Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only >> >> Randall, >> >> I agree with you, but the topic deserves discussion beyond the current >> attendee list, so I have taken the liberty of copying the IESG and >> IAOC on this reply. >> >> As you know, the "European dinner schedule" was introduced at one of >> our Paris meetings to account for the fact that many restaurants there >> would not even be open at our previous 17:30 - 18:00 end time. It >> seems that some of our current end times have slipped beyond the >> original concept, so I think this deserves some further discussion. >> >> (Of course I have a personal interest in this since I am arranging an >> event in Yokohama that I am hoping to start at 19:00, but I still >> agree that we need to re-think the schedule) >> >> Ole Jacobsen >> Principal without Chorus >> Organdemo.info >> http://www.yokohama-organdemo.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 93attendees mailing list >> 93attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 93attendees mailing list > 93attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/93attendees
- [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randy Bush
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Bob Hinden
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Yoav Nir
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Howard, Lee
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Alia Atlas
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ben Campbell
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Kyle Rose
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Jared Mauch
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule joel jaeggli
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Yoav Nir
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andy Newton
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Jeff Haas
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Alia Atlas
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Charlie Perkins
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Aaron Falk
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Yoav Nir
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Dave Crocker
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Stephen Botzko
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Lixia Zhang
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Mary Barnes
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Lixia Zhang
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Jari Arkko
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Randall Gellens
- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule Ted Lemon
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- Re: [93attendees] Meeting schedule DRAGE, Keith (Keith)