Re: [93attendees] _No_ network experiment during the meeting

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Tue, 21 July 2015 07:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [93attendees] _No_ network experiment during the meeting
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On 7/20/2015 3:27 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> If we can't bring ourselves to experiment on ourselves to gain knowledge
> about what the relevant needs and risks are, we'll hamper our ability to
> improve the privacy situation for everyone.


I do not recall seeing anyone claim that the proposed experiment should
not be done.  I know that that was not the issue when I first raised the
legal/ethical process concerns.

Rather, the primary issue is informed consent of those who would be the
subjects of the research.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net