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Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting

"DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Wed, 15 July 2015 17:54 UTC

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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>, Stephen Botzko <stephen.botzko@gmail.com>
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And even if the IETF note well did cover such a thing, in general it could not indemnify an individual or person in breaking the law, but only become complicit is said illegal act. 

If we are talking about the handling of personal data, then the Czech authorities have put all the information together in English here:

https://www.uoou.cz/en/vismo/zobraz_dok.asp?id_org=200156&id_ktg=1107

>From the brief perusal I have done, it appears to mirror similar laws in other EU countries, both in requirements and management, as one might well expect.

Regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Toerless Eckert
> Sent: 15 July 2015 18:02
> To: Stephen Botzko
> Cc: Jared Mauch; dcrocker@bbiw.net; 93attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [93attendees] Network experiment during the meeting
> 
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:56:35PM -0400, Stephen Botzko wrote:
> > >>>
> > I think the note well is trying to do its best to idemnify the IETF 
> > and its participants against lawsuits claiming infringing on trade 
> > secret or claims of novelty for things mentioned in public 
> at the IETF.
> > >>>
> > There is *nothing* in the Note Well (nor in the RFCs it references) 
> > about indemnification.
> 
> Sure, but the note well does not explain why the IETF does 
> it, and why it has attendees accept it. 
> 
> s/idemnify/protect/ ?
> 
> Cheers
>    Toerless
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