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Re: [93attendees] Hilton Guest Room Internet Update

"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Thu, 23 July 2015 14:32 UTC

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On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:26 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If your personal ap does 5Ghz (airport express for example) that would
> make it less of an attractive nuisance.
> 
> In fact mimicking the hotel APs probably increases the complexity of
> reasoning about the hotel network so that's maybe not the best approach.

Given the popularity of personal APs and the fact it will probably continue or increase, it might not be a bad idea for the NOC team to publish a list of recommended practices for minimally-antisocial use of personal APs in advance of the meeting.

--John

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