Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT

Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder@Opus1.COM> Fri, 10 July 2015 15:38 UTC

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 17:37:57 +0200
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US, Canadian, and Mexican citizens can now get a "Passport Card" which 
is used for US/Canada and US/Mexico border crossings (not airports). 
This is additional to their normal passport.

This card is not valid for general international travel, however it 
serves as an outstanding identity document you can give to people who 
have been told to ask for a passport.  For example, most countries 
require foreigners to register, and hotels do this for you. In 3 years 
and many countries (including my last trip to Prague), I have not had a 
hotel refuse my US passport card.

The main goal of having identification on you when traveling around a 
city is that the police generally have the right to stop you and ask for 
such things.  The passport card serves this purpose very well, if you're 
from a country where you can get such a thing and essentially have a 
duplicate 'national identity card.'

jms

On 7/10/15 5:28 PM, Lisa Lorenzin wrote:
> Personally, when traveling internationally I leave my passport in the hotel safe and carry a photocopy of it, plus my US driver's license, while out and about. I've never had an issue with that approach. (I've also never needed to use the photocopy; it's just for the very unlikely possibility that something were to happen to the original - hotel burns down, whatever.)
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> Regards,
> Lisa
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Praveen Balasubramanian
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 11:05 AM
> To: Tim Chown; Toerless Eckert
> Cc: Behcet Sarikaya; 93attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT
>
> While on the topic of anti-theft precautions, is it recommended to carry travel documents like passport on person or to leave it in the hotel safety deposit box? What do folks prefer?
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> Also related question is would we need an identity document while moving around in Prague? Would a US drivers license suffice for dining establishments etc.?
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> Thanks
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> From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Chown
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:49 AM
> To: Toerless Eckert
> Cc: Behcet Sarikaya; 93attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT
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> Hi,
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> 	On 9 Jul 2015, at 20:48, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com <mailto:eckert@cisco.com> > wrote:
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> 	
> 	One other thing i was trying to find but couldn't so far:
> 	
> 	I wanted a bluetooth beacon to drop into my backback and get alerted
> 	when it moves away from me/cellphone.
> 	
> 	Alas, my cellphone does not support BT BLE, and all i could find are
> 	the newer nicer BLE beacons. Does anyone know one thats old school BT ?
>
>
>
> There was a very well-backed indiegogo project called Trackr, which looks very useful for this type of thing, as it includes a separation alert. It is on sale publicly now:
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> https://www.thetrackr.com/bravo
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> It does *seem* to be BLE only, though the compatibility list has some quite old smartphones on it.
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> For alerts when you go out of range of BT or BLE, you may find something that would work with a Pebble Time or similar smartwatch. On my Pebble Time I get an alert (the watch vibrates) if I go out of BLE range of my phone, which is handy for not leaving your phone behind somewhere.
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> For anti-theft, the trouble is that the BT/BLE range is quite long, more than you might think, especially if outdoors, so by the time the alert is triggered your valuables may be beyond recovery.  That’s where a tracker might help, though personally I wouldn’t take on any thief - you don’t know what they might be carrying.
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> Tim
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> 	
> 	Thanks!
> 	   Toerless
> 	
> 	On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 07:34:14PM +0000, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
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> 		I haven't seen any comments on this so far?
> 		
> 		Behcet
> 		
> 		From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Derick Winkworth
> 		Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:57 AM
> 		Cc: 93attendees@ietf.org <mailto:93attendees@ietf.org>
> 		Subject: Re: [93attendees] what currency is widely used in Czech?
> 		
> 		I've ordered this backpack for this exact reason, Toerless.
> 		
> 		http://www.pacsafe.com/intasafe-z500-anti-theft-backpack.html
> 		
> 		That site has other products too for secure traveling.
> 		
> 		Derick
> 		
> 		On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com<mailto:eckert@cisco.com <mailto:eckert@cisco.com%3cmailto:eckert@cisco.com> >> wrote:
> 		
> 		Oh, and try to have the phone numbers to cancel/re-issue all your
> 		cards handy but separate from your wallet. Well trained pickpocketing
> 		in Prague. Family member had that experience last Prague IETF.
> 		
> 		On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 06:43:12AM +0000, Weixinpeng (Jackie) wrote:
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> 		
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> 			Thanks Vinayak, Get it!
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> 				-----Original Message-----
> 				From: 93attendees [mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org> <mailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:93attendees-bounces@ietf.org%3e> ] On Behalf Of
> 				Vinayak Hegde
> 				Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 2:42 PM
> 				To: Weixinpeng (Jackie)
> 				Cc: 93attendees@ietf.org<mailto:93attendees@ietf.org <mailto:93attendees@ietf.org%3cmailto:93attendees@ietf.org> >
> 				Subject: Re: [93attendees] what currency is widely used in Czech?
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> 				Czech Republic is part of European Union (and the Schengen Zone) but does
> 				not use the Euro. It has it's own currency the Czech Koruna. That is what
> 				everyone will ordinarily accept. There might be some exceptions like high-end
> 				hotels and tourist shops that might accept the euro but you are likely to get it
> 				at an insane markup, so it is better to convert it to Czech Koruna.
> 				
> 				If you have Euros, expect to convert them to Czech Koruna when you are in
> 				Prague.
> 				
> 				-- Vinayak
> 				
> 				On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Weixinpeng (Jackie)
> 				<weixinpeng@huawei.com<mailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com <mailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com%3cmailto:weixinpeng@huawei.com> >> wrote:
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> 				
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> 					Hi all,
> 					
> 					Could somebody tell me what currency should I take with me, Czech
> 					koruna, Euro or both?
> 					
> 					ThanksJ
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