Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule

The meetings I've been in also managed their use of time quite well.

I think the breaks are needed though.  Many times they are used for
important side-bars that get people on the same page.

Doing more presentations electronically (not during the meeting) would free
up more meeting time.  I think this could also be done with the admin
plenary.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Henning Schulzrinne <
Henning.Schulzrinne@fcc.gov> wrote:

>  My experience differs - the working groups I have attended so far this
> week all made good use of their allocated time (and, in some cases, could
> have used a bit more).
>
>
>  We have been talking about "more efficient use of time" as long as I've
> been attending IETF meetings, and the basics haven't changed much. Thus, in
> the sense of engineering practicality, there is a food trade-off:
> imposition of sub-optimal lunch for an activity that can consumed
> asynchronously (for many) or very long meeting days.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:36 AM
> *To:* Henning Schulzrinne
> *Cc:* Ole Jacobsen; iaoc@ietf.org; The IESG; 93attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [93attendees] [IAOC] Meeting schedule
>
>  On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <
> Henning.Schulzrinne@fcc.gov> wrote:
>
> As long as the number of people with special food needs is smallish, this
> should be manageable, possibly at the cost of missing the first 15 minutes.
> This obviously works better in places like Prague, with plenty of take-out
> and grocery store options.
>
>
> Impositions always seem small if you are not the one bearing them.   I
> would appreciate it if you could stop denying that the problem with your
> proposal that I have raised is a problem.   It may be that what I want is
> actually not important, but it’s a real problem for me, even if it’s not a
> problem for you.   Furthermore, solving the problem that we are making poor
> use of time during IETF f2f meetings by cramming the agenda with yet
> another interval when we don’t have a break is not going to solve the
> problem.   Instead, it’s going to result in more people skipping the
> plenary.
>
>  Why not instead solve the problem that we don’t make good use of IETF
> meeting time?
>
>
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