Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Thu, 09 July 2015 21:31 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 17:30:58 -0400
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Subject: Re: [93attendees] Registration fee includes 21% VAT
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> wrote:
> The backpack looks tempting.
>
> One other thing i was trying to find but couldn't so far:
>
> I wanted a bluetooth beacon to drop into my backback and get alerted
> when it moves away from me/cellphone.
>
> Alas, my cellphone does not support BT BLE, and all i could find are
> the newer nicer BLE beacons. Does anyone know one thats old school BT ?

There are other products in this line (e.g., thetileapp.com and about
10 other similar things), and one that might better suit this use
case:

http://www.iotera.com/

I have never played with it, only seen folks talk about it... claims
to in a reasonably populated place be able to find things at much
bigger distances. I suspect you'd want a number of folks using this
thin in Prague before it's useful.

best, Joe

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